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Hi Ernie and welcome,

No offense AT ALL taken here. It certainly is a painful process of self exploration and willingness to change; no matter what your situation. Do not fret about where your post goes- it will be heard by the people who want to hear it. Keep posting and hope to get to know you. I understand what it feels like to know and love that happy, energetic side of you but to also feel comfort in the more problematic side. We are all here for you.
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Ernie,
  Usually we start a new thread. Some people get offended if we use an existing thread. I don't mind at all and I am glad you are here. From what you posted, I could see you really serious this time like I finally did about 8 years ago. Then my shrink recommended AA, little did I know that he was also a member of AA. But, it worked out to be one of the best decisions I have ever made. You may want to read the book Alcoholics Anonymous, especially the chapter "More about alcoholism" to understand the fatal progressive nature of the disease. if left un-attended, it will lead us into gates of insanity or death.

http://www.aa.org/assets/en_US/en_bigbook_chapt3.pdf
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hello everyone, i don't know exactly how all this works yet so i hope i am in the right spot and posting properly?  I am going to try and start Day 1 tomorrow and crossing my fingers it works this time.  I am of course having my night cap right now and for the first time in a long time feeling very confident that when i wake up i will be able to make it through the day without any drinks at all.  I have stopped in the past but never for more than a few days at a time.  There was a period a few years ago that i stopped for 3 months and after the first 2 weeks i have never felt better and i want to feel that again.  Sadly i did a calculation that was pretty depressing and is helping me focus on tomorrow because i feel it is pretty pathetic.  For over the past 27 years (9855 days), i have probably drank (2 to 12 drinks daily ) at least 9600 of those days,  which is about 97% of my adult life.  That is pretty sad and disturbing.  I typically have a couple drinks at lunch to tie me over until after work, then i start with the wine and gradually something a bit harder (depending on the day).  Sometimes I stop at 2 or 3 drinks and sometimes 6 or 8 drinks and on special occasions more.  I am really recently starting to feel the negative effects physically and it is starting to worry me a lot.  I need to stop or drastically cut down (if that is possible) and i really want to.  I have had lots of hardship in the past 10 years as i am sure a lot of you have and i feel that drinking helps numb the pain temporarily but i know it is just temporary and the depression gets worse. I was always a happy, energetic person and i want that again.  Thanks for listening.  
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I meant "Take care of yourself..." 

Always stay positive. Always be assertive. Always be kind. It never hurts to hold a door open for someone else. 

All the best :)

Dave


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Hi Kez,

Excellent work so far and "Well done!" for recognizing those negative triggers and giving yourself the space you need to move yourself forward. What's important is to focus on finding that space to let yourself heal and take care of yourself. All too often we lose sight of that self-care and, before you know it, we're standing on the wrong side of the fence and it takes a lot of strength and effort to pull ourselves back over to the side where we can live our lives and begin to find peace within ourselves. You're on the right track now so keep moving forward :) I really admire what you've accomplished and you're going to reclaim that sense of self, self-confidence, and inner strength and you'll discover new aspects to your life that will leave you feeling enriched with an inner-sense of peace and self-confidence. Be patient with yourself and definitely pursue your exercise and nutrition. The health of your body and your mind is yours to keep and flourish. Take of it and take of yourself. Drinking is so unimportant. You are what is important.

All the best,

Dave
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Thanks Dave,

Things are going pretty well, there have been some challenges, but it's been about a month or so since I've consciously removed myself from some of the triggers that were causing me to drink excessively and make bad choices. I won't be able to avoid these triggers forever, but for now it's giving me a chance to step back and sort of oversee what was going on inside my head  and what was causing me to feel so threatened and crummy. I haven't stopped drinking completely but without the triggers I'm finding myself much more able to manage the amount - the will power it takes is not much different than say, the will power it takes to tell yourself to exercise or to not eat junk food.  Drinking too much on a regular basis definitely became a habit for me, but when those triggers hit all bets were off. Remove the triggers and I'm able to maintain the control and rationality I need in order to work on self-talk, making behavioural changes, and hopefully build up some emotional strength and resilience for the days when I can no longer avoid those triggers anymore.  I'm trying to focus on my physical health as well - as a distraction - we just came back from a week of vacation (where I did well overall on the drinking front), and I realized it couldn't hurt to start incorporating some daily exercise goals to get my self-discipline back up.

Thank you again for checking in. Hoping to get a chance to catch up on the different forums in the next week.

Hope all is well,
Kez
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Hi Kez,

How are things going? Everything well?

All the best,

Dave
for 10 år siden 0 94 logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo logo 0
Hi Dave,

I'd say just about all of them of the dysfunction thinking patterns could be applied to my mother.   Since I've become a mom, especially, I've stopped myself in my tracks on many occasions and said to myself "you're turning into your mom!!". Which, it many ways isn't a bad thing, since she's had to face some seriously large challenges in her life. I find what makes it harder is that (like 99.9% of families I am sure) none of her absence was intentional. I have evidence from conversations I've overheard and things I've read that she just plain never understood what was missing..And I didn't either until I started this (extremely long) period of reflection.  People just work with what they have, right?  It's still a process for me to truly believe my family was dysfunctional and that I didn't create all of this myself. I can absolutely see the pattern emerging based on how my mom sometimes describes how she was treated by her mom, how victimized and full of blame she is, and how victimized I feel sometimes. She was never mean; she was just sad and emotionally unavailable.  It's like being "stuck" in a childlike state and while I'm fully aware of it, it's hard to move on from it. Especially when I feel like all the decisions I've made to get me where I am today were made from that childlike state.

On the other side of the coin, your incident at Christmas was a healthy dose of perspective for me, as I've let my unleashed drunken rage out on someone who let me down, quite a few times over the last 2 years.  I can see that I've lost all sense of boundaries with this person. And until I can get back on my feet, gain control over my terrible coping methods and feel less victimized, I think I need to stay away. I've come to realize that my behaviour is NOT acceptable anymore, even if this person will still accept me, and even if (and this scares me) I feel little remorse for my words because I'm still so victimized.

Dave you're a wise man. I went back to see my therapist yesterday as I was feeling like I needed some in-person reinforcement from someone I trust implicitly and she said your last paragraph almost entirely. "You're letting her problem be your problem". Something to think about,

And to end off, YES I absolutely think we all need to focus on our coping skills, assertiveness and changing our thinking habits.  I am not assertive, and as I stop drinking as an anxiety medication, this is going to be a  huge ongoing challenge for me. My backbone is mush because I don't even know who I am or what I stand for. When I assert myself it follows with severe guilt. Sometimes it terrifies me to think about how much work needs to be done to get to where I want to be. I've been encouraged to do a lot of relaxation and visualization which at first I thought was hokey. How could that take the place of the quick endorphin rush of alcohol when times get stressful? But over the year I've started to realize that the positive coping skills take time and persistence and are slow to show their effectiveness.. But they work. They develop into healthy habits that eventually take the place of the unhealthy ones. I agree and have meant to start a thread for us to maybe document situations that have been difficult for which we've used positive methods instead of turning to the bottle. Those things absolutely deserves more focus and attention because  those are the things that will ultimately assist us in being successful.
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Thanks Nodrama! I replied to another post of yours as well, but do you have much support going about all this? Have any of you been to AA meetings and found them helpful even being skeptical  of the idea. Really wNting to succeed this time around. Thanks :)
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Hi All!
I think that Elektra--you are getting to the place you want to be just gotta take your time.  It's not going to happen overnight but, every day you will feel better.  I am the same way---I used to push people away, not ask for help with anything because deep inside I thought that I was not good enough to love. That comes from our childhood. But you can overcome that. Set up boundries and not let those that have hurt you close any longer. I saw the post about you wishing your mother were gone and maybe that will stop things in your head.  She doesn't have to be gone from this Earth to be gone from your life so to speak or "out of the picture".  Keep her at arms reach---put up some boundries don't be accessable. At least that's what I did until I felt like I had my head straight and could handle things.  I haven't confronted my mom but, I've pushed her away enough that I feel like she's not nearly as toxic to me as she was. When we get caught in the circle of our parents own crap. When you feel the urge look into your own kids eyes and know that you are the change. You can do this if I can get my sh** under control anybody can! Hang in there and the longer you are out of the fog that is alcohol the better you will feel i promise. You can control this. You are in charge. :-) 

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