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for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 377

Thanks Eya, It's great to have you on board here at the SSC. Thanks for all your support! I hope you have a great Xmas and New Years. 1012 is going to be fun and interesting. Cheers! ROn

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 823

Hey Ron : ) you made it back for a reply. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to get back on here if you take a break from the site; you just get busy with life - which is a good thing (usually). But is so nice for you to reply. I didn't know you'd dealt with this 3 yr relapse thing too (before your current 3 year quit, that is). That is an amazing subliminal trip up that ol 'Nic got you with though! Ahhhh! When we quit for so long, I think we really believe that we've beaten nicotine, like you did Willis - so when a craving/trigger comes out of the blue, we're not expecting it to cause us any harm - just a 'puff for old times sake' . . . sounds like junkie thinking got to you too! So am starting to realize that my 3 yr relapse was not so unique after all! Makes me feel a bit less angry at myself for falling for the Nic-trick that got me. But ya know, I really had a hard time believing that I (myself) could be an 'addict' - sounds so hard core 'druggy' and not very flattering or appealing - I thought I had more willpower than that (before)! Now I know I have all the willpower I need as long as I remember to stick to N.O.P.E. So Sticking to it - you've got a good 'reminder' name going there! It truly is one way or the other. Thanks for that insight and reminder. And it's very nice to have support (here) too

- just look at all the great posts in this thread!

Still nominating you Ron, for an upcoming calendar spot in the Hall of Fame : ) and hope you find time to get your quit adventure story down to share with us. You're getting up there in those stats (again) and they're looking good! Eyja

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 792

Yeah tell me about it Stickin ! I went 3 years and one day I found myself alone with a pack of my old brand and a lighter. I figured Hey I've been off 3 years, nobodys around, let me just smoke one for old times sake. One week later I was sneaking half a pack a day because I was fully hooked but and completely embarrassed at what I had done.

The bright side is that now I know I can not sneak one and get away with it. Nobody gets away with it. One puff and your addiction is back, full blown, just the way you left it. So now it's N.O.P.E. for me.

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 1985

It is too, too easy to get sucked back in. There are tons and tons of smokers in the two to three year quit ranges that think one won’t hurt. It’s unfortuate that this happens because it sometimes takes years for that person to want to quit again. A person has to fully understand and believe it is one way or the other.

Stickin

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 377

Wow!

Eyja that is so great.. I'm sorry for getting back on this board so late after for this wonderful message. I loved to read your story of your relapse. Here you were nearly the same time that I was quit and the Nicodemon (or friends) got to you and voila back to 3 more years. And when I read this it seems so innocent to want to take a break from work. Little did you know that they started to become all too important and the influence just got to you over time. This is interesting because that is kind of what happened to me also. I had quit for as long as you and I had a friend smoker who I hung out with day after day watching him smoke away while I was quit. That was fine but I had a weak moment on my job where I was burned out and not happy. I never thought I would take that one until I entered a smoke shop that had just opened near me. I was looking around not intending to buy a thing and saw this pack of cigarettes that I read said "Non Addictive Cigarettes". It had a cute logo with a volcano and Indian and I jumped at the opportunity of trying them. I went through the pack absolutely buzzed and high saying I found my perfect love, a cigarette that I can smoke with no consequences. Well when I ran back to buy another pack because I had to have another smoke big time, I knew something was not right. I read the label again but this time I was in tears as it read "non additive cigarettes". By this time it was already over. This was the first time a company even marketed cigarettes this way and I was pretty back at full steam before long. It took a quite a while to get back again like you said and I have since learned my lesson. I think that is why I was a little nervous on my last trip to Thiland. I just don't want to get sucked in anymore. Thanks for your story and you support of me. I'm not in the HOF yet but thanks for the suggestion. Cheers, Ron

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 823

Thanks for replying to my comment here Stickin'. It is very thoughtful and insightful of you :) Like Ron noted (about painting) in his post, it seems you have (also) zeroed in on my situation regarding my quit. I look forward to the day that 'poof' happens though; that's for sure :) I'm all into trickery too if that's what it takes; I can negotiate, masquerade, trick, fight with, or laugh at 'ol nic - in fact I'll tackle any measures necessary to keep this quit on track. It's very important to me that I stay on my wagon this time; and I'm really beginning to enjoy the view from here too! Thanks again :) Eyja

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 1985

Eyja,

You definitely have gotten through the toughest part of quitting however usually there will be bumps along the way. Each bump you succeed in passing makes each succeeding bump easier and easier until poof. No craves, no bothers no worries.

You’ll get to a point mentally where you can solidly justify not smoking if only because of all the work you’ve put into the quit. You’ll find smoking is no longer attractive and that you don’t need or thing about the lift that smoking may have brought.

Trickery can help you stay quit. When I had a real big, big desire to smoke, I would say to nicodemon “HOLD ON, HOLD ON” let’s discuss this in an hour or the next day. Then go on from there and repeat the same to nicodemon the next time. Distractions are key until you get well. Then you do what you please as a non smoker. Why it is easy after awhile. Good luck and may time fly for you but please do enjoy your time!

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 823

Hi Ron : ) This thread continues to be amazing - I just read over your trip itinerary again - that in itself is worth reading the post over from beginning to end! I'm still impressed with you managing your triggers while in a different culture (and nearly dying in an hurricane) - you could have so easily been caught off guard! I see many long time quitters have posted here too, with similar stories! It's very interesting. Thank you all for your perspectives. They're enlightening.

I lost a promising 3 yr quit in 2007 - I had 3 yrs, 4 mos & 21 days under my belt and I let my colleagues (nurses & nurse aides for cryin' out loud!) convince me off my quit. They were smoking at work to get a break - otherwise, in the palliative care ward - you don't take breaks at all! Too many bells ringing; you just run from room to room until your shift is done! So when we need a smoke - we get a break! Nicodemon wins over all the patient bells ringing in the world! So I decided that I'd pretend I still smoked so I could 'deserve' a break too - and started going out with the smokers at break time. Found out that the smoker's circle had all the best news, gossip and weekend plans too! Then my hubby was smoking when I got home on a nice summer evening; havin' a brew and vanilla tipped cigar - ahhh! So I caved; One puff only! Two.Three. Four. . . . and it took 3 more years to get the courage to quit again! But I've found SSC now and learned NOPE! So no paint fumes or nurse gatherings, or hubby's smoke & brew or wonderful vacation abroad will catch me this time! I do know I'm an addict now. Humbling it is, but honest & armed now!

Am so glad that you posted your story Ron! You know I looked for you in the Hall of Fame here and can't find you?? If I missed you, I apologize. But if you're not in there yet, then I would like to nominate you for the December Hall of Fame! Eyja

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 377

That is so interesting Stickin because I used to paint houses when I first started to smoke way back when. I found that I had such an association with painting and smoking. I think part of it is painting let's off a lot of toxic fumes and of course smoking I guess compliments that. Anyway I also had a big trigger when I painted for the first time after quitting. I agree that until you have met all your triggers they can continue to come up. I hope I've seen them all but I'm sure there might be another one around the corner. The good news is we see and watch it and just don't act on it:)

I am sure sticking with IT!

Ron

for 12 år siden 0 +0 / -0 1985

Hi Ron,

I enjoyed your story and the multitude of responses from SCC participates. Yes, I agree with Lolly and laney that triggers can and do come up from time to time.

Your story brought to heart a theory that I have about triggers. A person will be triggered until such time that he, as a non smoker, re-lives, experiences each past trigger at least once.

One example, I was painting our kitchen walls after quitting for 18 months. I found quickly that paint vapors were a trigger and painting work breaks were a second trigger. What a doozy! I gave up painting for the day and took it back up the following day. Vacations are triggers and being around smokers are triggers. So you added strength Ron; you did good!

And yes it does get easier. You are proof of it. I don’t think a person could stay quit for more than a month if it didn’t get easier. I seem to run into a slight trigger ever 6 months to a year, still digging up some old triggers. But hey lots of triggers come your way when you have smoked forever.

Stickin

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