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Hi Doug! I have the same feelings that you have I don't want to be among crowd and avoid social situations, my safe person is my boyfriend, he goes with me everywhere, I've been trying to go out by myself, trying to get my freedom back, I feel very embarassed with my situation and I miss my old self, when I was 21 I decided to travel and I went to over 10 different countries all by myself and now I am afraid to take the subway. But I am trying, everyweek I go out at least once by myself, take the train or the bus, I try to talk to myself that if I am going to die it will happen no matter where or what I do, If my destiny is to go crazy it will happen in my house or somewhere else. you Try going out with your safe person and then going separate places for half hour and then make it 40 minutes, then one hour,etc, that's what I still do with my boyfriend, It has been making more confident. Good luck Doug
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Hi Lucy, Do you mean you need help with a plan to be less dependent on your support person? If so, don't hesitate to post in the other forum about it.
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I need help with the support person thing too. Exposure therapy has worked for me before, but this time it's really slow for me too.
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Also, I have a question: Does anyone here have any ideas or suggestions for getting over the "safe person" thing? My only attempts at it so far are from exposure therapy, which doesn't seem to be helping alot, but a little bit.
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Thanks for the kind words of encouragement Lucy. When it comes to Wal-mart, my only fear was of large crowds and not being able to "escape" to have my PA out of the view of the public. Just the crowds and being stuck, and that's all. Sounds kinda weird, I know. When I felt like I needed to "escape", I would always want to go home, but when I got home, I normally wasn't ALOT better, just a little bit. It was then that I would realize that "home" wasn't a physical place I needed to be, but I just wanted to be away from the crowds, and the best place to be was home. I understand now that "home" can be anywhere I'm at, but I need to make myself feel comfortable anywhere, which means I can cope with my PA's anywhere, and eventually overcome the irrational fears and negative thoughts. Thanks a bunch again.
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Yes, being able to go 5 hours to the beach, but not to Wal-Mart - I can empathise. I have really weird things like that too, like I could handle being on the train for hours but I can't go on the bus between two bus stops - I think it's because the train seats are high and spaced far apart and you can't see the other people, whereas the bus is filled with teenagers staring at you and making jokes that probably aren't about you but naturally you assume they are. Those teenagers! It's not that I exactly have a social phobia, I just hate the idea of people seeing me having a panic attack and I mainly get my panic attacks while I'm travelling. Doug, you certainly shouldn't feel embarrassed about having a support person just because you're a guy. I feel embarrassed because I don't know any other guys personally who have panic attacks, only girls, and so it's like, 'You're just a typical girl, weak and pathetic'. But I understand how bad it must feel to think 'I'm like a weak girl'! Of course this is ABSOLUTE RUBBISH. The thing I always think of is this agoraphobic woman in England who was so scared to leave the house she pulled her own tooth out with pliers rather than see the dentist. Now, what average person would be brave enough to do that? People who don't have anxiety attacks just don't understand how brave you have to be to deal with them. The whole idea of 'bravery' is abhorrent to me now because of what it's taken to mean in our culture.
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I know exactly how you guys feel. I'm a 30 year old healthy-as-a-horse male who has PA's and depends on a safe person, which is my wife. It seems like no one else cares enough to help or doesn't know how to help, so I don't depend on anyone else. I have to honestly say that I think it is worse for a male thana female from the public's POV because the male is supposed to be "strong and independent" in most people's eyes. Can we say treated like a freak? Can we say treated like less of a man? Yes we can. I am on my way back though from being house-bound and literally couch- and bed-bound for about 6 months. Now I am a television producer who works 55+ hours a week, but I still struggle in certain situations. How about his for a little inspiration: I hadn't been to the beach since I was to small to remember. My wife had wanted to go for the first several years of our marriage but I wouldn't go for some reason or another. Not long later, I started having PA's. After 2 years of PA's I started getting better through CBT and exposure therapy of my own design. We then decided for the ultimate test - the beach. We live over a five hour drive away, so we left at night (less traffic on the road, so less nervousness). The first hour was hell almost, but it actually made me P.O.'d and I trudged on. After that, it was smooth sailing all the way to the beach. We arrived at about 6am. I sat on the beach until after the sun rose, and have been back 5 times since. Conversely, I can't go to Wal-Mart by myself because of agoraphobia. Weird huh? Write back and good thoughts for you all.
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I am 29 like you and feel very dependent of my partner to go everywhere, I feel like they keep me safe, but I know there no safe place but myself, I hate to depend on people, sometimes I feel like a freak, but I understand that this is just a phase of my life that I have to go through, I have been trying to go out by myself because I know there are so many beautiful things out there for me to see. I try to be very positive!!! I never asked any stranger to help me, because I feel very embarassed for my situation. Everytime I go out by myself I put a little note in my purse with my name and address, just in case, I keep thinking that if something get really bad somebody gonna find it, but I never used it, if I feel bad when I out by myself, I wait and try to distract myself untill my sensations go away and they do.
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Hi, I'm 29 too, and have the EXACT same problem. I live with my mother and my partner. And ... I've had the exact same experience with asking other people to help and the response being quite awful. Which is only to be expected, I suppose ... With my partner, I can drive and go out and so on, but I can't be alone in the house and I can't go more than about 500 metres away from home by myself. It's awful, isn't it, because you can really get stuck in a rut. I keep thinking that if I get better, I won't let myself slide back into the same dependency ... but I've gotten better before and then slid backwards because the dependency feels so good and is so much easier than having to deal with panic by yourself. If you still ever check this post, can you tell me more about your problem? I'd like to know a lot more, and I can share my experiences with you too - or if anyone else suffers the same problem, can they write here. I'll give you an example of a bad experience with a stranger - I was in the supermarket and my Dad was waiting for me in the carpark. Even though he knows I've got anxiety, he always thinks I should challenge it so he said to go in by myself. On the way out I had a big panic attack, so big I couldn't force myself to take another step, so I went into the pharmacy and asked if I could lie down for a minute. The attractive, young pharmacist said okay, but she looked disgusted, and when I got up, she didn't ask if I was okay or anything - she was trying to look the other way. I have had some good experiences with strangers too, but this is typical of one that puts me off going out.
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Guys, anyone has the same problem as me? it goes like this: i have a very severe ocd + panic+agoraphobia. it hadn't been properly treated until very recently when i am finally seeing a psychiatrist who specialises in CBT. because it hasn't been treated for 7 years it has gone out of proportion adn i am very dependent on my mum and my partner and i am 29 years old! i feel like a small child because i need them to go everywhere with me. i am trying to do baby-steps and going out of home but obviously it goes very slowly as my symptoms are very deeply rooted in my behaviour/mind. i always need them at home. i know it can't be like that and of course they go out but then i panic very severly. it seems to me that when they are arond i can feel safe because they will help me get through my pas not some strangers. and i am ashamed of strangers - i have asked some to help me and it was VERY humiliating. i felt like i was a freak. how do you cope with "ungluing" from your support people? I guess it needs practice again but how do you REALLY do it? what steps do you take? thanks for all info, Iwona

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